[Wyewood] Input Requested from Our Populace - Reply requested by noon Friday 8/25

Wed Aug 23 13:29:15 PDT 2017

Greetings,

According to my randomly spotty memory. I do

remember that the committee writing the customary wasn't in

favor of having champions succeeding themselves. For all of

the reasons that have been given so far.  It does look like it didn't

make it into the final customary. Other than the sections that

did made it in, hinting at the decision that Avine posted.  I have

no ideas on what happened when the final version was written.

It was however, rolled in with the same suggestion that we needed

at least two competitors to have a championship. No default winners.

Of course that means in the recent past, our current champion(s)

were "unable to step down" for "several" years.  Unless they chose to

resign and leave the position in abeyance.  Which doesn't really look

good for that person. Or for us really.

It does appear that we have an unintended consequence with

our champions being "generally" unable to  hold multiple

championships elsewhere. Depending on how we enforced it.
IE: if a person was "stuck" with our championship for multiple

years, would that prohibit them from competing in another one?
As far as I remember, that question did not come up when the

customary was being written.

Fortunately we have recently allowed an out by their excellencies

having the option of granting exceptions.
Yet something else for the next "customary convention"

squawk sheet. LOL... sigh)

I do like the idea that we move the champions off of seafair

weekend.  I know that the regional calendar is full of non SCA

events but this particular event does have overlap with the

SCA community.  Going to any other weekend in August will

also overlap with one of the three current weekends of the

W WA renfaire.  Overlapping one weekend of that would

probably be better than overlapping a single weekend

nasty traffic generating event like seafair.

Since the customary is confusing on this question, I humbly suggest

we throw the decision into the lap of their excellencies for this

year only.  then hash out the discrepancies in the customary

sometime before our next champions event.  I do think it may

be necessary for someone other than the champion to put

together the competition format if they are competing.  How

we do that may need to be again thrown into the laps of their

excellencies for at least this year.

ROFL I so enjoy throwing things into the laps of their excellencies

for some strange reason right now.......  <ducking for cover now>

Occasionally in Service

Robert Trinitie The Chickenhearted

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The SCA floats on a sea of jellied traditions.
Surrounded by shoals of well ground axes,
and a herd of dead horses.

-- Robert Trinitie The Chickenhearted. -- AS: teens

ADDENDUM: ... and scented with the aroma of Biffy Mints.

-- wishes to remain unknown. -- Approx: AS: 42

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From: Wyewood <wyewood-bounces at lists.wyewood.org> on behalf of Ruslund Geyer via Wyewood

At the time of the writing of the customary, this subject was brought up.
Many of us did not want champions to "defend" their championship because we
did not want someone having the opportunity to camp out and monopolize a
particular championship as had been seen in other Baronies.  I have not
changed my opinion.
Also, it is suggested that they cannot repeat by the wording:
8.3.1.d) Assisting in coordinating a tournament to choose their successor.
8.3.1.e) Attending both the tournament to choose their successor and the
successor's investiture.
We haven't been at this as a Barony very long.  It's not a surprise that we
don't have a lot of competitors in some fields.  Give it a little more time.
Perhaps sweeten the pot a bit by comp'ing each champion's site fee for Feast
and the next Champion's event.

Avine

-----Original Message-----
From: Wyewood [mailto:wyewood-bounces at lists.wyewood.org] On Behalf Of

To the People of Wyewood,

We have been recently notified that one of our champions has so enjoyed
their tenure that they wish to defend their position.  After reviewing the
Customary, we have determined that there is nothing clearly barring our
Champions from doing so, we know that Wyewood has a tradition of not
allowing Champions to succeed themselves.

What say you?

Please reply and tell us Yay (champions should be able to succeed
themselves) or Nay (champions should wait until the next tournament), and
Why.

With our Champions event being this coming Saturday, we ask that any
commentary be sent to us before Noon on Friday, August 25.
In Service We Remain,

Baron Evrard and Baroness Alessandra
<http://lists.wyewood.org/listinfo.cgi/wyewood-wyewood.org>